Posted: Jul 30, 2011 12:58 am
by quixotecoyote
andrewk wrote:
Stages 1-3 of this strategy are entirely compatible with Islam, in fact supportive of it. I don't think Craig would deny that. It's only argument 4 that argues for Christianity and against Islam.


That's why I don't bother with "Kalam" or "first causes" arguments at all. In addition to being pointless, they're insincere. They're just a means to get to the point of arguing '4'. Any other argument would do as well.

I usually just grant it and ask that given that some prime mover exists, why should I believe it's their particular god. I usually find that discussion more interesting than chasing a dozen insincere logical fallacies around. Even if the reasoning here is fallacious, it's at least the meat of the issue and not just the flimsy philosophical construct built post-hoc to provide an intellectual smokescreen for the real beliefs.