Posted: Nov 13, 2014 4:40 pm
by Thommo
surreptitious57 wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Fallible wrote:
There is a meaningful sense in which we can say that some people suffer less than dead people?
This is where I apparently keep falling down. Would that not require allowing that dead people suffer?

No, if suffering can be negative, for example if we look at net suffering (i.e. some measure of suffering offset
by happiness or thriving) then someone who does not suffer can be worse off than someone who has negative net suffering

The point is that you seem to be taking a reasonable view that suffering is a one way street, but I don't think it's the only reasonable view. Which is why the consequences start to look less uncontroversial, for example when we talk about how the living must have it worse than the dead

You are conflating the objective fact of suffering with the subjective interpretation of how it feels to the one experiencing it.

No, I'm not. That has literally nothing to do with anything I've said.

In fact over multiple posts I've taken great pains to point out that the word "suffering" can connote any number of different things.