Posted: Dec 10, 2014 11:24 am
by Sendraks
Animavore wrote:The Church have almost no relevance to today's society. They are dying out and their role is mostly ceremonial now. When the abortion referendum came out in the 90s the 'No' vote just barely won. The next time, and there are calls for another referendum, they won't win.


There was another referendum in the early 00s I recall, where the NO vote won. There was a very heated debate on forums I visited at the time, with a number of Irish posters posting cogent arguments from both sides of the fence. Maybe 10 years ago seems fairly recent to me and that is colouring my views. Maybe it is because female friends over in Ireland keep posting articles from the Irish media which don't present a very positive attitude towards abortion.

Of course it could be exactly as you say and the anti-abortion lobby are running scared, hence the sudden flurry of reactionary material appearing.

Animavore wrote:There was a major LGBT ceili in Lisdoonvarna of all places last month. Galway has a thriving gay community. Ireland just isn't that bad a place for homosexuals.


This is all news to me. Which won't be news to you that its news to me. My friends out in Galway have painted a very different picture for me, but I can think of various reasons (mostly related to all work and no play) why this might well have passed them by.