Posted: Jan 23, 2015 8:36 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
carl wrote:
Nebogipfel wrote:
carl wrote:
BTW, will those studies actually claiming to confirm the origin of the universe (as if !) contain the words: "possibly", "maybe", "we propose", "it seems likely", "could", "should", "might", "in all likelihood", "theorize", etc.. ?


I doubt if any study will authoritatively claim to confirm the origins of the universe. We leave the delusions of 100% certainty to religion.

We need to discern what is speculative and what is confirmative.


We can and we do. It's called science. You should learn about it.


We ought never to confuse true science with speculation.

Certainly not, hence why Nebogipfel urges you to learn about it.

carl wrote: For example, to put modern medicine alongside the theory of abiogenesis is very deceiving.

Only to those who know fuck all about abiogenisis and assume the two are on the same level.
Science isn't 1 black and white thing carl.

carl wrote: It is a deceitful practice of many skeptics and atheists on the internet.

No, what you're doing is deceptive and dishonest, to pretend these things are seen as the same.

carl wrote:This is what happens when we are overly impresses with those who have PhDs in some field of pseudoscience (not science) when they discuss their theory of abiogenesis, theory of evolution, theory of cosmology, theory of......

No this is what happens when disengenuous apologists try attack things they clearly do not understand.
With the above quote you have just demonstrates you haven't got a fucking clue what science is, nor what the difference between a scientific theory and the colloquial usage of theory is.
Stop conversing via your rectum carl, it will stop you from making yourself look like a fool.


carl wrote:Unfortunately, what we don't understand is that immense topics such as the origin of the universe

You're begging the question that there's any such thing.
Like many theist apologists do.

carl wrote: or the origin of life are out of our reach to scientifically confirm

Remember what I said about talking through your arse carl?
Blind and asinine assertions like these only demonstrate your theistic blinders.

carl wrote: leaving us with speculation about that which occurred in ancient history.

Once again demonstrating you haven't a fucking clue about science, whether that be biology, cosmology or archeology/history.

carl wrote: There is no way to apply the scientific method - or any other scientific method - to confirm such theories, leaving us with the dubious position of placing our faith in those whom we listen to, with their grand theories and presuppositions.

Thus carl hath blindly asserted thus it shall be forever more. :roll:

carl wrote:This is why Jesus said: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."


Dumbledore 4:11
“After all to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.”

Accept Harry Potter, as the Boy Who Lived or you shall surely be killed by He Who Must Not Be Named.

carl wrote:The level of our education has nothing to do with the condition of our heart.

Green ideas sleep furiously.

carl wrote: We can have ten PhDs but if we're bent away from God, we're on the road to destruction, as well as those who foolishly listen to them.

Got any evidence that your god exists carl?
Otherwise these thinly veiled threats are not just silly, but contrary to the FUA.

carl wrote:<snip> more blind assertions, preachings and general nonsense <snip>

:nono: