Posted: Dec 13, 2016 10:38 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
Keep It Real wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:That they're completely wrong in the head?

So what? They're not harming anyone, except potentially the person having them.
And they can't help it.
We help people like that, we don't persecute them.


You're right, they can't help it, and your arguments here that the fantasies are ok does nothing to help them.

I said nothing of the sort KIR.
Please adress what I actually post, rather than straw-men.
I said the thoughts themselves do not harm anyone beyond the person who has them.
It's when someone acts on those thoughts that they become externally harmful.

My arguments that paedophilic fantasies are in fact rape fantasies and as such abhorrent could help.

There's a difference between pointing out that acting on their fantasies is harmful and illegal, and dismissing entire individuals as scum for the uncontrollable thoughts they have.


If you want to help, say that paedophilic fantasies are rape fantasies. At least most people think rape fantasies are fucked up.

Personal feelings are irrelevant. Raping children is demonstrably harmful and (therefore) illegal.
Having uncontrollable thoughts about it is not, nor should it be.

Everybody can assimilate new information and adjust their thoughts accordingly. Or do you think once a paedophilic fantasiser always a paedophilic fantasiser? Do the right thing, young thomas.

Firstly you can stuff the condescending ageism.
Secondly, yes, there's no evidence to suggest paedophelia can be cured, especially not through force of will or moral arguments.