Posted: Dec 13, 2016 11:58 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
The_Metatron wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
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The_Metatron wrote:
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Again, unless you've just openly declared yourself to be a rapist that forces himself on any and all women he finds attractive, you're talking horseshit.

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Take a hard look at that part I highlighted. You see, that's the conditional part of the sentence. The part that must also be met for the action to occur.

All this does is make it seem that you're a situational rapist.
No, a paedophile thats aware that children cannot consent and would be hurt, would not rape them even if they could get away with it.

You're the second person to fail to grasp this.

If anything its your repeatedly vague generalizations that are causing confusion.

I tend to choose my words carefully. You would be served to read them as carefully.

I try my best and would appreciate it if you did the same as your previous response also contained misrepresentations and a straw-man in the form of a leading question.


Since you earlier failed to grasp the concept of my example

I did not fail to graps it, it was flawed on multiple levels.


I'll expand it into terms I hope you do understand.

Lets try to avoid condescension, shall we?

You are not asexual, I assume. That is, you're driven to have sex with people.

For the sake of the argument, lets say I am.

Now, are you going to tell us that a pedophile's sexual attraction to children is any less imperative than yours? Or mine?

Are you telling me the only thing stopping you form having sex with every woman you're attracted to, is not getting away with it?


I doubt that it is, actually.

Hence why I never argued that. We're not going to get anywhere if you keep arguing against positions I have not taken.

In the same light that I have no doubt that homosexuals are as attracted to their own sex as I am to the opposite. With the same force.

Actually not everyone has the same sex drive.
More importantly, again, people are not going around like bunnies fucking anyone and everyone they are attracted to.
And that is nt just because they do not have the opportunity.


Bearing that in mind, I see no reasonable expectation that pedophiles will not act on that drive. Just like you and I act on ours.

Because just like us being hetero- or bisexual, being a paedophile does not automatically make you a rapist. Nor does it prevent you from having empathy.

You injected that rapist business of your own accord.

You don't want to understand this. We're done.

I'm getting cramped from typing on my small phone keyboard so I will respond in detail tomorrow.
However I will state this; I am trying my hardest to understand what you are saying and to have an open and honest disucssion with you Metatron. So I do not appreciate it when you blindly accuse me of not wanting to understand you.
Especially after you've snipped multiple parts of multiple posts of mine where I try to clarify my position and better understand yours.

So no, as far as I am concerned we're not done. I will try another attempt tomorrow to clearly state my position and explain what seems wrong about your arguments and position, based on what you've posted so far
All in good faith. So if I misunderstand something do point it out, but dont dismiss things out of hand or assume I am out to get you.