Posted: Apr 12, 2018 3:39 pm
by Thommo
The basic problem that the OP asked remains. There are about 10 times too many people, and it's going to get about 50% worse in the best case estimate. There's no way from here to sustainability that isn't hideous beyond all human evil that's come before.

The sad thing is that when we talk about eco diversity, topsoil loss, fishing stocks, devastation of rainforests or coral reefs or even antibiotic resistance and so on, we aren't even looking at the actual depletable resources. Those were all renewables that we abused so badly they are either ceasing to be or having the level at which they can be renewed permanently reduced. We are so far off track it makes me genuinely sad to the point of sleepless nights.