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Shiv wrote:Kindly do not foist your own image of how India was on the actual past of India, since it very clearly appears that you have consumed the loads that have been doled out by the Marxist historians and the media, which is evident from your Brahmin bashing. I'm not a brahmin, but I am better aware of the reality - they make up such a miniscule part of the society that if all you said was true, the others would have decimated them ages ago. That seems to have not happened, why?

That said, India in the past did not have a rosy picture of an idealized society either. But it was definitely not as worse as you paint. And you are also attributing practices that cropped up later on after the invasions to the society before the invasions.

I am not here to waste my time by defending stuff. I am here to understand what atheism is - especially in a western perspective. I will put my experiences to use whenever I get the opportunity.

If you are ready to shed a narrow-minded, negative view of the pseudo-secular variety, we can have a discussion on what was and why. Else, it was nice talking to you. Good bye!

I havent consumed from marxists alone, I dont like marxists, I dont like ideologies. I make up my own mind based on facts and not on the interpretation of facts. Power of words are more dangerous than anything else. As far as brahmins are concerned, it is undoubtedly true that they were the clerics, they were the theologists, they had a greater status in the society and they believed in purity and pollution more than other groups. As far as tiny presence is concerned, there probably were far lesser british in India during their control than the number of brahmins in the whole country. Do not consider impact with population alone. Also, it was told enough times that killing brahmins would bring a curse.That they have to be fed well etc etc.
Put it simply, brahims were the clerics, if it matters, I am willing to use the words as "clerics' or "the cleric group".
India did not have a rosy picture is understated, it was a terrible place for humanity. It is true for most places around the world, but again I am comparing with the buddhists and the jains.
Practices cropping up after invasions?. I am willing to listen, bring forth the evidence. Pseudo-secular! . You wouldnt find many people opposed them than me. I am not nicey to Islam or Christianity either. I believe in reason.
As far as defense is concerned, it was once again you who started by finding "the urge to take credit" attitude.
I am willing to be civil and willing to explore what was and what is, I am more than willing to not use hurtful words or speak in a manner as to being willfully provocative.
But the thing is, are you willing to accept evidence which is negative or not?. Thats the question. I am willing to work on that too. Take care .