Posted: Jul 15, 2015 11:02 am
Sendraks wrote:Peter Brown wrote:no, my dislike of Islam is whats in the Qur'an backed by what happened over 1400 years of history.
We can say the same about the bible and what has happened over 2000 years of history.
Basically, you can condemn christanity on exactly the same basis that you condemn islam. So why choose one over the other?
We dislike both religions. We think they are both bad and problematic. However, we do not think that the problems associated with those religions extend to every person who follows those religions. You think that Islam is somehow extra-specially bad, but can't evidence why.
The problem is extremist behaviour and that's a problem no matter what religion it is associated with.
If you want to have a sensible discussion about the how and the why of Islamic religious extremism, then we can do that. The issues however, are way more complicated than just pointing at the Qu'ran and saying "muslims bad!"
and the only comment I made when Thomas started on his ranting about other religions was this is a subsection on Islam, take it elsewhere stop derailing the topic on mosques, which isn't a topic about churches or any other hall of woo.
If you can't talk about Islam, then ask questions, but don't get insulting and dismissive as some here have done when Islamic quotes are returned. Or it will be no wonder when off topic messages are ignored, they deserve to be ignored. My crime has been not ignoring more of them.
Basically, you can condemn christanity on exactly the same basis that you condemn islam. So why choose one over the other?
and because this is always the same sad tune I'll shout it again in bigger bold stand out type
IT IS A ISLAM SECTION NOT A ALL RELIGION SUB SECTION
But I basically disagree with the premice all religions are the same, that really is a false claim which I've seen used to excuse a religion doing bad shit with the smoke screen of all are the same.
Muslims and Christians hate gays, but Islam says kill from high hights, Moses says stone them, whatever and Christianity love the sinner not the sinner, aand that makes all three the same. Jog on.
And I know damn well the people who use this slight of debating hand tactic are hypocrits because in the next paragraph they say, not all Muslims are the same are they. Well when is a Muslim not a Muslim, a Christian not a Christian? When they don't follow the Muhammads example if a Muslim or Jesus if a Christian I'd say, so why isn't that acceptable as a discription and a straw man.
off to walk the dog