Posted: Jul 15, 2015 1:10 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
Peter Brown wrote:my logic once more

Where you're wrong, once more:

Peter Brown wrote:If the Qur'an is a book of currently criminal ideas in some countries then people who practice those criminal activites should face the judge.

The Qu'ran has no single objective interpetation.
The Qu'ran has plenty of verses that promote lawful behaviour.
The bible and Torah contain criminal ideas as well.
Any person who violates the law, for whatever reason, should face justice. People commit crimes, not religions and virtually all religions contain verses that promote unlawful behaviour. Given that Islam and is based on Christianity and both in turn on Judaism they have many similar unlawful notions in their religions.

Peter Brown wrote:If a criminal organisation meet in a hall to promote criminal ventures, then they should be denied access to that hall.

This includes churches and synagogues I presume?
And only those buildings where such behaviour is promoted and not, as you voted, all buildings of a particular diverse group?

Peter Brown wrote:Calling your criminal organisation a religion, or hiding behind hangalongs is not nor ever should be an excuse to evade justice if you break the law or promote breaking the law of the land.

Agreed, but again this does not apply solely to Islam and mosques.

Peter Brown wrote:People who support criminal organisations and don't wish them to face the judge for breaking the law are as guilty as the criminal; they are aiding and abetting crimes o take place.

Again agreed and again, not limited to Islam and mosques. Nor does it excuse the closing of all mosques.

Peter Brown wrote:Calling someone a criminal if they invite others to break the law with them is not being a bigit or a strawman or a true scotsman.

Hence why nobody made such an asinine claim.
It's truly fucking desperate of you to keep rergitating these ludicrous straw-men instead of dealing with what people actually post.

Peter Brown wrote:Stating what the religion tells the follower because it is a book is not a true Scotsman fallacy,

It is because there is no One True Islam/Qu'ran interpetation TM.
The more you keep pretending otherwise, the more you demonstrate your position is based on prejudice and bigotry.
Not to mention hypocricy because you fail to apply the same standard to other religions.

Peter Brown wrote: it is just a plain simple reality that the book they believe is from Allah is telling them to do crimes. Pretending that it wasn’t is aiding and abetting the crimes to carry on.

Like you repeated ignoring, white-washing apologetics of criminal behaviour promoted in the bible and Torah you mean? :naughty:

Peter Brown wrote:Why do some Muslims not follow the Qur'an as writen? Maybe they fear the punishment of man more than that of Allah, the whole bedrock of Islam is the fear of Allah has to be greater than the fear of men. Yep that's in there too.