Posted: Mar 31, 2016 11:55 am
by aliihsanasl
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Sendraks wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
This is the problem. Are we talking about Islam as an ideal described in the koran, or the myriad different ways people practice it.


Well I think the fundamentalists keep their consciences clear in respect of the Koran by not "forcing" anyone to convert by making them a Muslim but instead giving them the wholly fair choice between "convert or die." Obviously no one is being "forced" to choose under that scenario, they either go willingly to Allah or to their deaths.

Cake or death?

Cake or death?

But that's something they made up themselves.
The early Muslims may have treated Christians as second class citizens, but they weren't given the choice 'convert or die'.


During the Ottoman period non-Muslim communities were not allowed to have house higher than Muslims, could only ride donkey clearly they were second class but their life and even more important than that their way of life and so culture was under protection. In a dispute between two Jews, Greeks or Armenians their own law was applied. But to tell the truth that's the practice applied during Ottoman period as I said. What was the method of Arabians during conquering Iraq, Syria, North of Africa and Spain there are different views. Even Islamisation of Turkish tribes of Anatolia is a discussion topic among historians.