Posted: Jan 27, 2018 12:47 pm
Thommo wrote:That doesn't really seem relevant. As I recall I objected to you talking about logical entailment and how poor people couldn't be "big thieves" because they wouldn't be poor any more.
It would seem hard to misunderstand what I wrote, since it consisted of just four words.
And I said, it's probably plausible that could happen. Stealing your way from rags-to-riches isn't unheard of.
It's blatantly obvious that this is a crass overgeneralisation of the most extreme kind, and even if we accepted it (which I don't) it still wouldn't do any lifting whatsoever in showing that Islam wasn't a religion.
Maybe Islam was a religion. But that's not how it is these days. These days they rarely occupy their minds with the religious aspects of Islam. Because if they actually did that, they would literally go nuts like the poor woman in that video, dementedly muttering "Astaghfirullah! Astaghfirullah!" until her tongue falls off. And then, she would pick up her tongue, superglue it back to inside her mouth, and the process would repeat ad infinitum. Like Sisyphus.
So anyway, in mosques, Muslims these days would rather spend more time discussing global news events that feed into this grievance narrative about how the infidels are oppressing them (By them, I mean, it's USUALLY not them. It could be some random person somewhere halfway across the globe who happened to be a Muslim). Common discussion topics: (1) how there's someone somewhere who had just committed blasphemy (2) how some infidel somewhere just killed some poor muslim somewhere (3) how some infidels are conspiring to deconvert them. (It could be the Christians who goes everywhere evangelizing converting people or the atheist illuminati spreading liberal agendas eg. democracy, freedom of speech/open criticism of religion, sexual liberation, feminism & women rights, LGBT rights, etc).
If you are not aware of this, its because you guys don't live in a Muslim majority area or don't have lots of Muslims in your Facebook/Twitter circle.