Posted: Jan 27, 2018 8:11 pm
by Thommo
quas wrote:1. Because the religious aspect is boring. Most people are not of the scholarly/nerdy type.
In fact, most people HATE reading.
You now expect them to read in Arabic (which isn't the native language of most Muslims), and you want them to read in Quranic Arabic?

Imagine how difficult it is learning Greek, for most Christians who are not of Greek descent. And you expect them to learn Koine Greek so they would be able to understand the Christian religious text in its original written language.


I'm tempted to ask what the hell you think you're talking about? Are you now contending that since most Christians are not of the scholarly/nerdy type, don't read ancient Greek or Latin and most people hate reading that means Christianity isn't a religion either?

It's hardly news to anyone that most religious views are not derived from personal scholarly study of original holy texts, and that certainly isn't in some way unique to Islam. And if it's pretty well equally true of all religions (which from the criteria you provide it is), then it cannot be a reason why one religion isn't a religion and other religions are religions.

And to be crystal clear, whatever "expectation" and "want" you referred to here, they surely aren't mine. I've been pretty clear that I'm not demanding either Christians study holy texts in Greek or Muslims study holy texts in Arabic, in order that they be considered religious. Contrarily you seem to be demanding some contradictory combination of both and neither.