Posted: Sep 07, 2018 6:54 pm
quas wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:Perhaps you should try to go live in another society for awhile, for example, one in western Europe having a significant Muslim population, and combine those observations with ones you claim to have made. In some sectors in Europe, significant hatred is directed AT muslims rather than coming FROM them. These politicians, like the AfD in Germany, might love what you have to say, depending a bit on the shade of your skin. The AfD are not a majority party, at least, not yet.
And European political parties like the AfD are enjoying very limited success, because... they are not using religion as a conduit to propagate their hateful politics. And they are not doing that because... Christianity isn't that effective when it comes to propagating hateful politics. Maybe it was long-long time ago, in certain circumstances, but these days it's not since most Christians these days aren't devout/practicing, and that's probably because the religion isn't that good at enforcing devotion, isn't that effective at enforcing tribalism and shared identity within its community of believers.
You're still just treating religion (and Islam in particular) as an ideology with Special Sauce™. You're welcome to your ideology, too, so have fun with that. As somebody else said, your discourse is like that of other believers. In fact, the marker there is your proselytizing, "What would it take to convince you?" Sill working on those innate qualities, I guess.
quas wrote:the religion isn't that good at enforcing devotion, isn't that effective at enforcing tribalism and shared identity within its community of believers.
All a matter of degree, then. Those innate qualities are everywhere, I guess, but in some places they're just more effective than in other places. Chalk that one up to ugly politics. You might try breaking your social media habit and getting out a bit more.