Posted: Apr 03, 2011 8:14 am
jez9999 wrote:SkyMutt wrote:jez9999 wrote:They are therefore not a Muslim; they are an apostate, and Islam is pretty strict on that.
By whose edict? Does a Jew have to follow all 613 of the laws laid down in their holy book to be Jewish? Does a Christian have to "love the Lord God with all [their] heart, and with all [their] soul, and with all [their] mind" (not to mention all the other stuff enjoined by the Bible) to be Christian ?
The Quran's? You quote some other religions which aren't relevant because they have a long history of constant questioning and/or rejections of parts of their holy texts, which Islam does not.
Find one pseudo-Muslim who doesn't say they accept all of the Quran as God's perfect word... you'll struggle. If they were actually saying they could cherrypick it like Christians do the Bible, then we'd be getting somewhere.
there's a huge bunch of shi'a movements that reject parts of the quran to various extents. E.g. the nusayiria, isma'iliyah,musta'liyyah, nizariyyah, qarmatiyyah (some of which are extinct). sufi movements: at the very least bektashiyyah. (there's also some movements in India whose names I don't find right now, and in africa iirc?)