Posted: May 14, 2014 3:50 pm
the mouse wrote:You lack a belief, on whether I own a car or not. No matter how you cut it, this is exactly your position here.
To be agnostic requires one to take a view on the metaphysical concept of a deity and decide that it can't be known one way or the other.
My view in respect of your car ownership is - "I could know if I cared enough about it." Which is not agnostic.
Furthermore, your status of car ownership will be known to someone or some system somewhere on earth.
Athesims is the lack of belief in deities. The default position that every sentient is born with. No baby has a view that the existence of god is unknown or unknowable. They simply don't have any belief.
the mouse wrote:
Agnosticism is not dependent on whether or not something can be known at a latter time or not, it's only a matter if it's known, or unknown at the time in question. Theoretically anything can be known in some forceable future, under some forceable circumstances, but yet in regards to agnosticism, this does not matter. It's only a question of the present moment.
The claim for agnosticism is that certain things will either remain forever unknowable or are simply unknown at the present time, because of the limitations of what humanity can understand or perceive.
The existence of your car ownership is something that is readily knowable and well within the bounds of human understanding and perception. Choosing not to know something that is knowable. is not agnosticism.