Posted: Jan 21, 2015 1:20 am
by tolman
carl wrote:
tolman wrote:Indeed - and it's worth stressing the point that it's not simply a matter of a god having to try and impose its Divine Will on naughty humans who don't want to listen.

Numerous doctrinal disputes and splitting of churches has frequently happened as a result of clearly entirely sincere people honestly believing they have some connection to a deity praying and thinking and coming up with different answers to the ones which other similar people have got.


It is not surprising that humans disagree, wouldn't you agree? Disagreement amongst humans carries no weight whatsoever regarding the existence or nonexistence of God.

Way to [deliberately] miss the fucking point.

It's clear that many people who sincerely think they are being guided by a deity are simply wrong, unless there are multiple deities, or there is a single one who enjoys misguiding devoted followers for shits and giggles. And to cause no small amount of killing and torture.
Given that, it seems more than possible that all people believing to be guided by deities are wrong, seduced by the same human psychological reasons, rather than some fraction of them being right despite being no obviously different to anyone else.

You can try and ignore that, but the only person you might hope to successfully fool seems to be yourself.

And to be honest, I wouldn't exactly see that as a colossal achievement.