Posted: Mar 29, 2017 9:20 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
Dark energy wrote:Thomas
You could also think the earth is flat and the centre of the universe.
All three of those notion would be wrong


chill out,

At no point in my posts have I expressed any emotion, so you can stuff this passive-agressive comment right where it came from.

Dark energy wrote:
it is my personal opinion.

And? Something being an opinion, does not make it immune to criticism.
Your opinion is simply wrong.

Dark energy wrote:
If people go around telling you cannot marry the person you love, your wife cannot be seen in public areas, your children's body should be mutilated etc, because the gold excreting Duck demands it, I guarantee you that you would not just ignore them.
Especially when the Duckist have (political) power.

where does the diety say those points Child mutilation

The Abrahamic god commands genital mutilation of boys.

Dark energy wrote: and not being able to marry the person you love?

According to the bible it is wrong to marry anyone other than a person of the opposite sex.

Dark energy wrote:
First of all, most of them aren't.
It is only when theist insist their deistic beliefs should give them power and privilege, that most atheists object.
On the other hand some atheist would prefer it if people do not believe in unsubstantiated nonsense and base their life on that belief.
Most importantly, that you don't understand something does not mean you can just make stuff up and then pretend your made up, ignorance based interpetation is rational or correct.

they would prefar because they cant force their views on the mainstream society,if atheists were to hold significant political power,they would push for the atheist agenda.

Stop making stuff up, it only hurts your credibility.
Atheism is the absence of belief in a deity. Nothing more. The absence of a belief itself cannot provide an agenda, religion, plan, etc.
Also, many people who are atheists also happen to believe in the freedom thought and religion.

Dark energy wrote:
Your humpty-dumpty notions are completely irrelevant.
I've noticed you've ignored whole posts and parts of posts you have adressed. Why don't you adress those?

i havent seen it.

They were between other posts you were responding to, so you're either not reading the thread with any rigour, or lying.

Dark energy wrote:was wondering,what would prevent an atheist from murdering somone if they were in an isolated island and no court around?

What would prevent a bald man from murdering someone if they were on an isolated island with no court around?
What would prevent a colour blind person from murdering someone if they were on an isolated island with no court around?
Again; atheism is the absence of deistici beliefs.
It is not, having no beliefs about morality.
The only thing atheism can tell you about a persons moral beliefs, is that they don't attribute them to, or follow the commandments of, a god.

Dark energy wrote:
with out god watching over and a court there ,what is preventing atheists to rape?

Empathy, the golden rule, a lack of predeliction for rape.
Meanwhile religion hasn't prevented people from comitting rape, murder, or other horrible crimes.
Heck, in the OT god commands the Jews, several times to rape captured women.

Dark energy wrote:
Facts and reality are not determined by popular vote dark energy.
And most of theist don't recognise the luncay because they've been indoctrinated since childhood and acknowledging they were wrong and by extension their parents, is to fundamental of a change to accept.

or may be they cant acknowledge they are wrong because they need have evidence to be convinced.

Wrong. Stop shifting the burden of proof.
The person making a claim has to provide evidence, not the person doubting the claim.
If you claim a god exists, you have to demonstrate that it does.
It is not up to others who do not accept your assertion to prove that it does not.

What you're arguing is the equivalent of this:
Person A: "I have a living dinosaur in my garage."
Person B: "I don't believe you."
Person A: "Prove that I do not have a living dinosaur in my garage."
If you cannot see how irrational that is, you really need to study the basics of reason and reasoning.

Dark energy wrote:
So what? That doesn't change the fact that theists cannot provide evidence for the existence of their god(s).
It doesn't change the fact that atheism is the rational position to take

well,there many things that science can not prove at the moment for example,

FIFY.
So what?
If you can't demonstrate it, it's not accepted as either a fact or scientific theory.

Dark energy wrote:
why the physical laws do exist.

You are begging the question.
Why does there need to be a reason for physical lawss to exist?

Dark energy wrote:Atheism fails to appeal to me though.

This is an appeal to emotion.
Just like popularity does not determine what's true or rational, neither does the point of wheter it appeals to you or not.

Dark energy wrote:
it is bull crap.

You have not demonstrated this.