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SafeAsMilk wrote:

John Platko wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

John Platko wrote:

Well about about this guys metaphysical argument about motion?

It's certainly a nonsensical argument. You can't use the premise that all effects have a cause to claim that there is an effect without a cause.

And yet people have been eating it up it various forms for over 2000 years. In that form for abou 800 years.

To them it makes sense. why.

Confirmation bias is a powerful thing. But is this really an example of the best metaphysics has to offer?

It's a well known one and it captures the flavor of what I've seen from metaphysics. As far as I can tell it's a mental hand waving trick that confuses many minds into believing they were shown an actual proof. This proof of God thing seems harmless enough but they use similar mental gymnastics in more directly harmful ways. And to them it's like they're working with math, you crunch the logic and out pops the answer you were looking for. And to make matters worse, if those answers are agreed to be correct in certain forums they become irreformable - they're right and they can never be deemed wrong.

Anybody here ever find a compelling need of metaphysics to be able to actually do something or make something?