Posted: May 15, 2018 4:10 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
romansh wrote:
Hermit wrote:
romansh wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:I think that if you were to ask those people if they believe in a god or not, they'd answer no, meaning they fit the definition of atheist as implicit, whether they like that word or not.

So how do we come to a definition?

Why not use the definition by Thomas Eshuis that you just quoted? People who lack a belief in the existence of a god.

I do
I also use the explicit version, depending on the version that the person I am talking to uses.

But the claim "Atheists don't make claims" should be amended to "Some atheists don't make claims" when using the impicit version collectively.

Again, I disagree. If you're talking about atheists who make claims based on atheism, it is indeed correct, as atheism itself is not a claim or position to base anything on.
That some atheists make claims, based on their gnosticism for example, is part of that gnosticism or whatever other idea they hold, not atheism.