Posted: Nov 10, 2019 5:50 pm
aufbahrung wrote:Pushing it to call science a edifice of discovery from the vantage point of a insignificant rock in the outer-reaches of nowhere.
Sorry but because you say so?
When a group of ground apes just a few millennia from being impressed with how far they can sling their own poo can read and manipulate the building blocks of life, when they can walk on and send robots to another body in space, when they discover the structure and scope of space and can detail the initial expansion of the universe through reading background radiation... that's an edifice of knowledge regardless of whether you can bring yourself to acknowledge it or not. Don't worry - you can garner all the benefits riding on its coat-tails while lazily indulging yourself in some woolly notion you fancy just like all the other religionists, but you do make yourself look like a berk using computers and the internet to criticize empirical knowledge and its applications.
aufbahrung wrote: Mostly there is a edifice of engineering behind any science...
Complete bollocks. Once again, don't expect scientifically literate people to take instruction from somebody who talks about holes in space. And engineering is applied science anyway, residing firmly on scientific principles.
aufbahrung wrote:... but science geeks are so self-obsessed with status they forget to complement the folks making their paltry explorations and discordant discoveries possible.
Says the guy self-satisfiedly dismissing the product of scientific method. Everything else in here looks very much like projection - your ideas are so special and you're special for having them. Yes, they might not actually be your ideas, you might have borrowed them wholesale from someone else, you might not understand them at all, and you might be incapable or too lazy to actually do any relevant research or build on those ideas... but bask in their supposed reflected glory anyway.
Has it struck you yet that you might have as much comprehension of the simulation hypothesis as you do of what space is?
aufbahrung wrote: It is like a fish in a fish bowl kept in a darkened room saying the same thing.
1) Fish don't speak.
2) If you're going to pretend you have unique ideas, don't steal them and mangle the most famous and ancient ones.
3) You're rapidly emulating fundamentalist Creationists attacking science because it won't genuflect to your woolly speculation.
aufbahrung wrote: I don't dismiss scientific discovery but don't reckon it to be up for much compared with plausible discoveries waiting out in the cosmos, or within the world here.
And we're going to find those discoveries with...?
And we even know about them because...?
Yeah, thanks for playing.