Posted: Jan 24, 2020 10:39 am
Spearthrower wrote:But for example, it is valid:
what seems real to us is real (to us)
Thus hallucinations, delusions, mystical nonsense... what this means is that people aren't lying: they genuinely believe that the dysfunctions of their brains represent something real in the world.
And in that sentence you have just define "unreal". If a perception is "dysfunctions of their brains" then it is does not "represent something real in the world".
I take it that NoemaNovel would disagree that what you label "delusions" and "dysfunctions of their brains" are nothing of the sort. The claim seems to be that the perceptions represent something objectively real (although nt necessarily "in the world")
Your opener reduces to :
What seems real to us seems real (to us) which isn't worth a dime.
If we took all perceptions as reality we wouldn't have a concept for real/ unreal.