Posted: Jun 06, 2021 1:52 pm
I see the "atheist genocide" bullshit has been resurrected.
It's time for this:
One. Atheism, in its rigorous formulation, is nothing more than suspicion of unsupported supernaturalist assertions. That is IT. And as such, provides no motivation to do anything other than question those assertions.
On the other hand, we have a wealth of observational data informing us how religions are cited by their adherents as strong motivation to kill those who do not conform. Inquisition and the Crusades, anyone?
For those who need explicit pointers to the supernaturalist origin of that venomous contribution to human affairs, known as "ruthless enforcement of conformity to doctrine", see Exodus 23:24, Deuteronomy 7:5, Deuteronomy 13: 6-10, Deuteronomy 13: 12-15,Deuteronomy 17:2-5, 2 Chronicles 15:13 and Jeremiah 12: 1-3. These are the passages which provided us with the dictum "kill all who do not conform".
Two. The individuals frequently cited as purportedly "killing in the name of atheism" by pedlars of this bullshit well-poisoning meme, perpetrated their horrors for two reasons - first, pursuit of the objectives of a well-defined political ideology, and second, consolidation of personal power. Atheism had nothing to do with this.
Three. Those same individuals, when their backgrounds are properly researched, are found to have connections with supernaturalist belief. Pol Pot was raised in a Theravada Buddhist household, and spent part of his education in a Catholic high school. Mao had a Confucian education and Buddhist parents, only encountering Marxist theory at the relatively late age of 24. Stalin was educated in an Orthodox seminary. Hitler was a Catholic, who never renounced his Catholicism, and indeed, devoted space in "Mein Kampf" to praising the Catholic Church and its modus operandi.
For that matter, "Mein Kampf" is positively *littered* with references to "the Creator", "the Almighty" and the rest of it. Interestingly, for the diligent student of such polemics, this work also contains within its pages a view of biology that, far from having any connection with evolution, is in fact an almost perfect rendering of the creationist "kinds" nonsense. See pages 245-246 of the Unexpurgated Version, translated by James Murphy. Which, incidentally, renders this piece of bullshit:
utterly null and void. To reinforce this point, here's the requisite passage I cited above from Mein Kampf:
There's enough biological ignorance in this screed to destroy utterly the myth that Hitler was an "evolutionist" (and veterans of the forum will be well aware that I've dealt with the "evolutioninst" canard at length here).
Four. As for the question of the body counts, an inconvenient fact that supernaturalists frequently (and deliberately) overlook, is that modern perpetrators of atrocities had access to modern weapons for the task. Anyone who thinks, for example, that the Crusaders or Inquisitors such as Tomas de Torquemada, would not have racked up a far bigger body count if they had been given access to 20th century weapons, needs to re-take their basic history classes.
If we look at the body counts they racked up with nothing more sophisticated than swords or bows and arrows to hand, then imagine how more horrific those body counts would have been, if they had been given access to modern artillery or helicopter gunships.
For that matter, if the Crusaders has been given access to nuclear weapons, they would have turned the entire Middle East into radioactive lava in the name of their god without even drawing breath. Tomas de Torquemada would have been creaming himself in ecstasy at the though of committing the "heretics" to modern concentration camps, and would have embraced Zyklon B in a flash.
Five. One embarrassing aspect of the use of this well-poisoning bullshit by smug, self-satisfied supernaturalists, is that none of them are aware of the fact that whilst these individuals were responsible for nameless horrors, one atrocity they did NOT commit was systematic child rape - unlike a good few Catholic priests and "megachurch pastors" we've learned about of late. I have a nice little list of said criminals that I can reproduce here in a flash, if anyone doubts the veracity of my statement.
So, can we put the "atheist genocide" bullshit and lies in the bin where it belongs, and set fire to it as well?
It's time for this:
One. Atheism, in its rigorous formulation, is nothing more than suspicion of unsupported supernaturalist assertions. That is IT. And as such, provides no motivation to do anything other than question those assertions.
On the other hand, we have a wealth of observational data informing us how religions are cited by their adherents as strong motivation to kill those who do not conform. Inquisition and the Crusades, anyone?
For those who need explicit pointers to the supernaturalist origin of that venomous contribution to human affairs, known as "ruthless enforcement of conformity to doctrine", see Exodus 23:24, Deuteronomy 7:5, Deuteronomy 13: 6-10, Deuteronomy 13: 12-15,Deuteronomy 17:2-5, 2 Chronicles 15:13 and Jeremiah 12: 1-3. These are the passages which provided us with the dictum "kill all who do not conform".
Two. The individuals frequently cited as purportedly "killing in the name of atheism" by pedlars of this bullshit well-poisoning meme, perpetrated their horrors for two reasons - first, pursuit of the objectives of a well-defined political ideology, and second, consolidation of personal power. Atheism had nothing to do with this.
Three. Those same individuals, when their backgrounds are properly researched, are found to have connections with supernaturalist belief. Pol Pot was raised in a Theravada Buddhist household, and spent part of his education in a Catholic high school. Mao had a Confucian education and Buddhist parents, only encountering Marxist theory at the relatively late age of 24. Stalin was educated in an Orthodox seminary. Hitler was a Catholic, who never renounced his Catholicism, and indeed, devoted space in "Mein Kampf" to praising the Catholic Church and its modus operandi.
For that matter, "Mein Kampf" is positively *littered* with references to "the Creator", "the Almighty" and the rest of it. Interestingly, for the diligent student of such polemics, this work also contains within its pages a view of biology that, far from having any connection with evolution, is in fact an almost perfect rendering of the creationist "kinds" nonsense. See pages 245-246 of the Unexpurgated Version, translated by James Murphy. Which, incidentally, renders this piece of bullshit:
truelgbt wrote:Hitler was listed by the OP in a later post as being an evolutionist, which he definitely was.
utterly null and void. To reinforce this point, here's the requisite passage I cited above from Mein Kampf:
Even a superficial glance is sufficient to show that all the innumerable forms in which the life-urge of Nature manifests itself are subject to a fundamental law - one may call it an iron law of Nature - which compels the various species to keep within the definite limits of their own life-forms when propagating and multiplying their kind. Each animal mates only with one of its own species. The titmouse cohabits only with the titmouse, the finch with the finch, the stork with the stork, the field-mouse with the field-mouse, the house-mouse with the house-mouse, the wolf with the she-wolf, etc.
Deviations from this law take place only in exceptional circumstances. This happens especially under the compulsion of captivity, or when some other obstacle makes procreative intercourse impossible between individuals of the same species. But then Nature abhors such intercourse with all her might; and her protest is most clearly demonstrated by the fact that the hybrid is either sterile or the fecundity of its descendants is limited. In most cases hybrids and their progeny are denied the ordinary powers of resistance to disease or the natural means of defence against outer attack.
There's enough biological ignorance in this screed to destroy utterly the myth that Hitler was an "evolutionist" (and veterans of the forum will be well aware that I've dealt with the "evolutioninst" canard at length here).
Four. As for the question of the body counts, an inconvenient fact that supernaturalists frequently (and deliberately) overlook, is that modern perpetrators of atrocities had access to modern weapons for the task. Anyone who thinks, for example, that the Crusaders or Inquisitors such as Tomas de Torquemada, would not have racked up a far bigger body count if they had been given access to 20th century weapons, needs to re-take their basic history classes.
If we look at the body counts they racked up with nothing more sophisticated than swords or bows and arrows to hand, then imagine how more horrific those body counts would have been, if they had been given access to modern artillery or helicopter gunships.
For that matter, if the Crusaders has been given access to nuclear weapons, they would have turned the entire Middle East into radioactive lava in the name of their god without even drawing breath. Tomas de Torquemada would have been creaming himself in ecstasy at the though of committing the "heretics" to modern concentration camps, and would have embraced Zyklon B in a flash.
Five. One embarrassing aspect of the use of this well-poisoning bullshit by smug, self-satisfied supernaturalists, is that none of them are aware of the fact that whilst these individuals were responsible for nameless horrors, one atrocity they did NOT commit was systematic child rape - unlike a good few Catholic priests and "megachurch pastors" we've learned about of late. I have a nice little list of said criminals that I can reproduce here in a flash, if anyone doubts the veracity of my statement.
So, can we put the "atheist genocide" bullshit and lies in the bin where it belongs, and set fire to it as well?