Posted: Jul 24, 2021 1:55 pm
by Spearthrower
truelgbt wrote:
1) You don't even believe the Bible so you don't believe these killings even happened or were ordered by God or anyone else, correct?


Your question is basically illegible, and an insight into how blunt your mind is.

What does it mean 'believe the Bible'? The Bible's a book - I believe there is a Bible, I believe that the Bible contains many words expressing many ideas. Some of those ideas I don't believe. Some I do.

I don't know whether these killings ever happened or not. I don't know if they're allegorical or if they're the much transfigured memory of some event that happened which morphed through the retelling.

I obviously don't believe they were ordered by "God" because that's insane. But I believe that fundamentalist Christians believe it to be literal, and so they literally believe that God ordered these killings, and so I submit that exemplifies the point I was making and to which you replied... in agreement?


truelgbt wrote:2) God did order killings for those who were from hybrid people groups living in specific cities though.


So you're writing to say that you agree with what I said: the Bible does explicitly command murder.



truelgbt wrote: Heavenly creatures called "Sons of God" (not angels/demons, not Seth's relatives) under Satan's control came to earth and had sex with women, resulting in hybrids (Nephilim) rather than humans.


If you could just pause there for about 15 more minutes - my 8 year old son's about to go to bed, and I've run out of fantasy novels to read him. I have to be honest though, you might need to work that script a little because I think even he'd struggle to suspend his disbelief in magical devil children.


truelgbt wrote:The ill-tempered and violent Goliath is mentioned as one of them, along with his brothers.


Ooh, what's it say about Legolas? I like Legolas.


truelgbt wrote: This was Satan's attempt to distort/corrupt God's work of creating man in His Image.


But Satan was of course COMPLETELY POWERLESS against the all powerful creator of everything who incidentally had also created the demons, and apparently had created humans and magical sky demons to be co-fertile too! And so despite Satan's grump, nothing bad every happened because all-good God used His all-power to prevent evil before it could even occur thanks to his all-knowledge.

Oh wait! It's almost like this fairy tale is internally inconsistent, let alone evidently false.


truelgbt wrote:This is why King David executed war captives who were extra tall/huge and why the Israelites initially refused to even attempt to conquer Palestine, despite their own powerful military strength .


So you agree that the Bible justifies maniacal psychopathic murder.


truelgbt wrote:The extremely violent Nephilim filled the world with murder, resulting in God's Judgment through the Flood. If God had not destroyed the Nephilim, it is quite possible mankind would not exist today.


And it's not like the Magical Demon Sky Pixies could have just popped back down and shagged a few more hoomey wimmin, right... because that was like... oh God magicked it so that it could never happen again, and popped a rainbow in the sky which is actually just a brightly coloured chastity belt for Earth.

It does get a bit tricky that God got all MURDER EVERYTHING when He must have known from before He even created the Universe that this was going to happen, and - being all powerful - could have stopped it at ANY point - could even have reversed it.... but no, all powerful, all knowing, all good - the ONLY possible solution is DROWN ALL THE SQUISHIES. :grin:



truelgbt wrote:Genesis 6: "When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."


The Lord of the Rings - Chapter something:

Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie


But oh no, the Mortal Men couldn't be satisfied with their NINE rings, could they? And those greedy dwarves grubbing around in the ground like the own it! Tut tut! Imagine what a beautiful world it would have been had Celebrimbor never turned his attentions to jewelry.