Posted: Dec 07, 2021 8:22 am
by Hermit
Spearthrower wrote:
Hermit wrote:Does anyone think his intention is to discredit atheism?

My assumption - without having had the interest to read the whole article - was that he was doing the old 'I'm better than both sides'.

Yes, there is an undercurrent of virtue signalling. What makes the article a waste of time is Torres's central message that "...the New Atheist movement [...] gradually merged with factions of the alt-right to become what former New York Times contributing editor Bari Weiss calls the "Intellectual Dark Web"..." because there is no such thing as "the New Atheist movement".

Spearthrower wrote:As for PZ Myers - it's clowns like that who made me sure that if it was a movement, it could move right along without me! :grin: The man knows his zebrafish, but he should've stuck to that.

Ah, PZ Myers. In March 2009 he wrote a post titled "Richard Dawkins: banned in Oklahoma?" My reaction (at rationalia.com) was:
Is this P.Z. Myers' usual style of blogging? If so, I've read enough of his stuff. [...] he could teach the tabloid media a trick or two regarding the arts of exaggeration, twisting facts until they bear no relation with reality and sheer hysteria mongering. Fuck off, Myers. Your blathering - at least in this instance - is counterproductive to the spread of atheism.

Sam Harris, he of objective morality and preemptive nuclear strike fame, is worse.