Posted: Dec 17, 2021 4:14 am
by Hermit
Sendraks wrote:A quick google search (which is more exhaustive research than this dreck deserves) and the only places the Mao "quote" comes up are on religious wibble sites.

Finding a credible source for this quote (if indeed one exists) is going to be quite challenging for truelgbt.

Debunking false assertions can be an enjoyable pastime. When I challenged truelgbt to cite his source I already knew it.

Googling "Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwin" returns 49 results, most of them without further information. Only about dozen do. They cite Adnan Oktar, a Muslim, sex cult leader, conspiracy theorist, preacher, anti-evolutionistand holocaust denier who writes under the pen name of Harun Yahya.

In Part 4 of Yahya's book, The Disasters Darwinism Brought To Humanity, he claimed
Mao openly announced the philosophical foundation of the system he established by saying, "Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwin and the theory of evolution."

and gave the source as "K. Mehnert, Kampf um Mao's Erbe, Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt, 1977".

Note that no page is referenced, which is not surprising, for the quote allegedly uttered by Mao does not exist. I checked. The book is accessible here, and if you register (for free), it is searchable. The word "Darwin" appears in the body of the text exactly once, and not in the context of what Mao has said anywhere at any time. This is what Mehnert actually wrote (page 155. My translation):
Ernst Haeckel (1843-1919) was still completely a child of the 19th century that believed in progress and was optimistic, an intellectual descendent of Charles Darwin.

Yes, that is the sum-total of truelgbt's evidence (amounting to zero) unless he can provide additional information.

It might be worth mentioning that Mao's philosophical foundations are dialectical materialism, the class struggle and constant revolution. The theory of evolution just happened to fit in with those views. That is why he told the German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt during a visit in 1975 that these four people were chiefly responsible for his intellectual development: Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Ernst Haeckel.

About Mehnert: His book is surprisingly good for someone who was the publisher of The XXth Century, an English language magazine in Shanghai from 1941 to 1945. The magazine was financed by Hitler's ministry of foreign affairs, so basically supposed to serve as a Nazi propaganda tool. Mehnert described his views as nationalist, non-Marxist socialist, with the emphasis on socialist. He regarded himself as a German and European world-citizen. With the reprehensible Nazi policies he had no truck. In the early 1920s he participated in discussion meetings organised by both the KPD and the NSDAP without subscribing to either party. In 1928 he graduated with a doctorate in politics at the University of California, Berkeley (where he subsequently taught modern history and political science as guest professor in 1936 and 1937). Along with being fluent in German, English, Russian, Cantonese and Mandarin, this gave him a sound basis for analysis. His book, Kampf um Maos Erbe examines the struggle concerning who will succeed Mao. It is well worth reading. Unfortunately there does not appear to be an English translation.