Posted: Oct 14, 2010 10:19 pm
by Nebogipfel
Andrew4Handel wrote:
LIFE wrote:If it wouldn't matter events like the one in the picture wouldn't have happened.


Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and others killed hundreds of millions of people and they didn't believe in god. You could argue that not believing in God caused these atrocities because people couldn't be held accountable for their actions and made up their own new warped moral virtues.


No, you could argue that not being accountable for their actions and making up their own new warped moral virtues caused those atrocities. If the not believing in God bit had anything to do with it, then why aren't atheist forums full of people approving of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot?



You seriously want to blame 9/11 on anyone who believes in or speculates about God.


I doubt if LIFE wants to do that.


Wouldn't you be better blaming Islamic fandamentalism ?


Yep. I think "God" is quite a fundamental part of Islamic fundamentalism.


Believing in a creator deity doesn't mean you agree with corrosive religious ideas.


Quite right. It's the corrosive religious ideas that are the problem. Unfortunately, belief in God is what helps corrosive religious ideas to spread.


But I do like the way you try and use 9/11 as a detterent against peiople speculating about god.


I think he's using 9/11 as a deterrent against people flying airliners into skyscrapers because they think that this is what God wants them to do.


In the same way I'll use Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Jeffrey Dahmer the Columbine and Finland school shootings et al as a warning against not believing in god.... :coffee:


Since you've just tried to point out how much of a fallacy this is, why would you want to do that? :dunno:


Actually though.. atrocities prove to some people how doomed society would be if we had to just really on the human spirit and values to function.


Well, more fool them.