Posted: Jan 13, 2011 5:20 am
by Driftwood
Denny wrote:
Towns wrote:The only time i question someone's beliefs, is when they try and impose theirs onto other people. I haven't "deconverted" anyone, and i can't imagine it being relatively easy as it is. If someone can be persuaded by a simple discussion that their beliefs are wrong, then they don't really believe in it at all. The only way a true believers mind can be changed is by solid evidence, and currently, we don't have any of that

I don't like your notion that only non-believer's minds are "free". I have seen atheists that i have deemed more eccentric than most Christians.

It's not what we believe in, it's how we let it affect our daily lives that is the true problem.


I don't agree. I think it's fair to say a believer's mind is not free. Not only is their interpretation of the universe and the natural world flawed but they willingly and eagerly volunteer themselves for slavedom to the divine. I don't see any correlation between eccentricity and being free in this example


I agree. Any time you fear that being a normal human with natural wants and needs will result in your eternal damnation, you're not free. Your heart and mind both are gripped in a vice of ignorance and terror.