Posted: Oct 06, 2017 4:52 pm
jamest wrote:Rumraket wrote:GrahamH wrote:I think 'the observer effect' could just as well be termed 'the measurement effect'.
Which in turn can just be called wavefunction collapse due to interaction. At no point can it be demonstrated that it is necessary for an observer to come along and read a graph on a display on some measuring apperatus that interacted with some quantum system, in order for that interaction to collapse a wavefunction.
But you're talking as though you are sure that these interactions happen beyond the observation or observation-of-measurement of them, when in fact we can only confirm that interactions happen via/proceeding observation.
But you're talking as though you are sure that these interactions DON'T happen beyond the observation. Clearly you are in error Such experiments offer NO support for non-occurrence of phenomena.
What you are doing is equivalent to standing in the light of the moon, looking up then closing your eyes and saying to yourself "see, I just proved there is no Moon!".
You try that experiment with an express train.