Posted: Mar 18, 2012 5:09 pm
by DavidMcC
Mr.Samsa, the real origin of this stupid row was when you claimed that:
Mr.Samsa wrote:I don't think the belief that bonobos are "peaceful" has been accepted for a while now...


And I pointed out that there were two different issues: in-group and out-group peace, with bonobos being better than chimps at in-group peace, but certainly not at peace with out-groups. That is why it seemed that you were misrepresenting the situation, by being ambiguous about what "peace" meant. No observations ever overthrew anything but the popsci view that bonobos were somehow peaceful towards all-comers, not just their in-group.