Posted: Apr 17, 2016 7:55 pm
Pebble wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:There you go, using the word 'optimal' again, without a license, because you want to prove there are moral choices. Want some moral choices to be universals? Get back in church. Or do as I do, and work on it case by case.
The problem with case by case, is that heuristic decision making determines each outcome. As the saying goes hard cases make bad laws. If however, there are some generally agreed principles - for example harming others is generally not approved of, while freedom of expression is generally tolerated, one has a rough guide for when the state or others are over stepping the mark.
"Generally not approved of", eh? Got the good ol' "Tut, tut!" thing going, haven't ya? Parents harm their kids in little ways, and nobody knows about it, and so nobody disapproves. I know. They would if they could. What good is your 'generally disapproved of", then? How much harm is enough to bring down the wrath of Tut? You see, Pebble? This kind of philosophy is good for precisely fuck-all, and here you are, desperately trying to find a way to get someone to admit that this kind of philosophy is good for more than fuck all. Generally? Rough guide? Don't make me fucking laugh. Do some fucking work, and get back to me.
Oh, but yeah. Authoritarian tyranny is worse than an ice cream on hot day. Tut, tut.