Posted: Mar 04, 2020 3:59 pm
Spearthrower,
I don't know why you're still saying that I haven't defined the word invasion. I have. I gave you the dictionary definition. Let's apply it to this situation, as if I haven't done so already.
You can look it up here :
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/invasion?s=t
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/colloc ... h/invasion
Connotations aside, and sticking only to the facts...
* There is a large number of people from outside Greece, trying to get into Greece.
* The government of Greece has not invited them into their country, nor given them permission to do so, nor given even the vaguest indication or hint that they would be allowed in.
* The government of Greece is employing military methods to keep them out.
* Locals also do not want them in their country and have taken action to try and keep them out.
* There have been reports of those trying to enter Greece using violence at the border.
Earlier you were talking about how if you're invited it means it's not an invasion. You can't say that in this case. Now you're saying that Greece is acting against international law.
You'll have to forgive my insistence on being pedantic, but it looks like an invasion. Again, my opinion is not set in stone, but you haven't given me any reason to see it differently, at least according to any of your arguments.
But even if I go along with your premise (which I don't), if Greece wants to say screw international law, then that is a breaking of their agreement with other countries. But once they say screw international law, it's now a matter of Greece deciding what it wants for itself, and Greece appears to be undergoing an attempted invasion by "non natives".
Your argument that international law has anything to do with this is irrelevant, as Greece has decided to say screw it. Now it's between Greece, those trying to get in, and the dictionary.
I don't know why you're still saying that I haven't defined the word invasion. I have. I gave you the dictionary definition. Let's apply it to this situation, as if I haven't done so already.
You can look it up here :
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/invasion?s=t
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/colloc ... h/invasion
Connotations aside, and sticking only to the facts...
* There is a large number of people from outside Greece, trying to get into Greece.
* The government of Greece has not invited them into their country, nor given them permission to do so, nor given even the vaguest indication or hint that they would be allowed in.
* The government of Greece is employing military methods to keep them out.
* Locals also do not want them in their country and have taken action to try and keep them out.
* There have been reports of those trying to enter Greece using violence at the border.
Earlier you were talking about how if you're invited it means it's not an invasion. You can't say that in this case. Now you're saying that Greece is acting against international law.
You'll have to forgive my insistence on being pedantic, but it looks like an invasion. Again, my opinion is not set in stone, but you haven't given me any reason to see it differently, at least according to any of your arguments.
But even if I go along with your premise (which I don't), if Greece wants to say screw international law, then that is a breaking of their agreement with other countries. But once they say screw international law, it's now a matter of Greece deciding what it wants for itself, and Greece appears to be undergoing an attempted invasion by "non natives".
Your argument that international law has anything to do with this is irrelevant, as Greece has decided to say screw it. Now it's between Greece, those trying to get in, and the dictionary.