Posted: Dec 24, 2011 12:40 am
susu.exp wrote:There are several senses in which you can say that Beethoven is objectively better than Britney Spears and some senses in which the reverse holds. For example "Für Elise" objectively meets the criteria for correct use of counterpoint, while "Hit me Baby" doesn´t...andrewk wrote:"What is art? Is artistic merit at all objective? Is there any sense in which we can say that Beethoven is objectively better than Britney Spears?"
The topic seems to confuse objectivity - whether the truth of a statement depends on the observer (subjectivity) or not (objectivity) with the question of relativity vs. absolutes - whether the truth of a statement depends on a set of premises or not.
Thanks for the observation about objective/subjective vs relative/absolute. We should be able to get a good thirty minuts interesting discussion out of that alone.
I'm a bit perplexed about the reference to counterpoint in Für Elise. Which bars did you have in mind? Do you regard the answering left-hand arpeggiated triads of the first section as a second voice?