Posted: Mar 19, 2012 3:00 am
by mjt
Andrew4Handel wrote:
LucidFlight wrote:
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I was responding to the posters claim that my ideas would die out with me.

However say tomorrow we all stopped believing in gods as a species then down the line assuming the belief in god didn't reassert itself the notion of atheism would be irrelevant due to the lack of a proposed alternative. So for instance noone likely believes that the there is a planet made solely of condoms therefore noone has an explicit nonbelief in this. Atheism is an explicit nonbelief that is based on the presence of theism. Antinatalism is propped up by the continuation of procreation.

So in a wry way you could say athiesm is parasitic on theism which would be a charming idea for another thread.

I say this because I think metatrons hostility towards me derives from my stringent criticism of atheism.

I was brought up to believe billions of non believers would spend eternity in hell which I rejected as a macabre and sick belief which makes people holding this ideology unfit parents and made me question the rationale of people having children whilst holding such nihilistic beliefs..

On the otherhand when I left religion I found that the alternative was meaningless pointlessness and was unable to replace religion with anything meaingfull. So I don't see atheism as a solution to cankerous religious ideologies but it carries its own innate unpleasent nihilism making life pointless which is a god reason not to propogate it.


Why do you need a "thing" to replace religion?

Not a deep thinker here(makes my brain bleed). So if the ideal is no reproduction, does that mean we should all abstain from sex? Or just mandatory contraception and abortion?
The human suffering you have outlined (slavery, war etc) of course are not good things, but to just turn your back on the troubles of the world by saying no more babies, and eventually it will all be gone will not solve these problems. People solve these problems. Not always quickly enough granted.
Where did you get the idea that the only acceptable life is one free of all suffering? Are you that special?without ever feeling pain it is difficult to feel empathy. I find it quite a selfish position