Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:01 pm
by Destroyer
Cito di Pense wrote:
Destroyer wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
Destroyer wrote:
What do you think "evolution from simple beginnings" actually means?


A gentle tap from my clue bat, Destroyer: 'Simple' is taken relative to presently-observed complexity.

You don't have any experiences beyond those of the empirical world with which to develop a semantics for 'evolution'.
You can talk about your meditations, but I can call what you say 'anecdotes' unless you can do something empirical besides make noises.

Does presently-observed complexity rule out idealism? Because that is what you seemed to be saying to Little idiot.

As far as experiences "beyond the empirical world" go, you will never ever hear such a thing from me!


Nothing rules out any metaphysics, or proves it. That's what makes metaphysics so aimless. Wibblers find a sort of refuge in claims that cannot be falsified. It all depends on your disposition, and whether you find it uncomfortable to risk discovering that you are wrong.

I actually meant to say does "simplicity" rule out idealism? which I did edit... Metaphysics is one thing, actual knowledge is quite another. Anyone who asserts actual knowledge are obliged to demonstrate it. I am not here taking issue with your challenge to idealism. I am asking a question (what does simplicity in relation to evolution mean, in your view) which could prove to be illuminating.