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SpeedOfSound wrote:

Little Idiot wrote:Some coconuts need to have balls thrown at them

SpeedOfSound wrote:

Reduction is a tool for finding and using rules. Nothing reduces in the ontological way that n-materialism or idealism has it. You can't reduce reality with your mind. These are ideas and ideas are not the thing in itself.

We can only reduce our ideas with our mind. We can not reduce the thing in itself - so you show me a thing in itself and you will hear me conceed that I can not reduce it with my mind. But until you show me a thing in itself, you have only shown me either my idea or another persons idea - and these ideas are easily reduced to the (knowing mind) and (its known content) which are both of course (mind). Its all mental. At least, all you can tell me, show me, get me to sense or experience is all mental.

Now idealism requires naive materialism to formulate itself. The false dichotomy. Without it you have nothing.

Only a naive realist could posibly think that is even a near miss to a factual statement.
There is no false dichotomy becasue there is only relation between (knowing mind) and (its known content) which is not a dichotomy at all, rather its the way a knowing mind points at (its own content) which is all it knows from (its supposed knowing power) which it infers but does not and can not know as (its own content).

Think james.

Or someone? Someone somewhere must get this by now?

Yes. Someone gets this. But you dont.

My intellect dwarfs you. It's over.