Posted: Nov 04, 2013 12:13 am
Little Idiot wrote:SpeedOfSound wrote:Little Idiot wrote:
Your evidence seems to be based on the physical senses I would like you to explain to me how the
agreed fact that we experience the environment via senses leads to the conclusion that the world
is material. Or provide any other evidence to support the assertion
Physical senses are based on evidence. You have something turned on its ass here
I see a tree is good evidence that there may be a tree over there
Going over and touching the tree would add to the value of the statement : it is not an illusion that
looks like a tree. The senses have provided evidence for the statement there is a tree over there
But he claims this justifies the statement that the world is material that materialism is correct and idealism false
I would like him to explain this he does not seem to see the need as he claims he is presenting objective facts
You wont agree with his stated position will you
QUESTION : do you agree or disagree with the statement if neither briefly explain
edit to clarify the statement I am questioning and quoted a couple of times
As I asked earlier : Specifically first up what evidence do you have
for the statement The world that is being experienced is a material world
Is this the third time now you have asked me this question ? And my answer is still the same. The world is physical and we know this because we experience it as such. And that is because our senses interpret the information in that way. Indeed given that everything that is known is either physical or contingent upon the physical there is no other way of interpreting it [ I have used the term physical here rather than material out of habit. For me the difference between the two is academic ]
You reject this definition because you are an idealist. But can you give one example of anything which is either not physical or contingent upon the physical ? Remember that subjective interpretation is not evidence now. No matter how much you convince yourself that your position is the one objective true one that does not make it so