Posted: Feb 26, 2016 2:11 pm
... This thread has veered way off-topic, because there is no aspect of morality involved any more, and all because someone threw in an irrelevance such as "red".
Lifeboat for the rational mind :D
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/viewtopic.php?p=2380185#p2380185