Posted: Apr 21, 2017 1:29 pm
by John Platko
SpeedOfSound wrote:
romansh wrote:
SpeedOfSound wrote:
I think it typical of how an atheist would imagine god. Now I'm wondering how you do it. Do you imagine a motive being, kind of like a human?


John's original point implies you can't be an expert on God ... his exact words were:
    I've never understood why atheists often think of themselves as such experts about God.

So who can be an expert on God?

I can imagine a god, perhaps reasonably well ... I don't know. My question becomes who is an expert on god ... and here I don't mean any imagined god ... I mean, you know, the real one?


I disagree with him and think in fact the opposite. Atheists are the experts. We actually go that extra step of picking out exactly what it is we imagine about god. Too much talk about god without any specification is the realm of the faith driven believer. Now I am just dying to read the next post here where he responds to my ask about his imaginings. My hope for him is that he actually tells me something instead of just blowing me off as the 'opposition'.


I don't think of you as the 'opposition' :no:



Before I read that, I would make the point that humans CAN be happy just driven by faith and belief without spec. It involves a lot of humming and a certain ability to discount and turn down the volume on any interrogators. But it works damned well. So well in fact that most humans just do this and call it a day.


That and leave a certain amount of carnage in their wake.


My issue with that is when dogma is called upon, in those rare moments when one must think a thing through (like having a gay neighbor for instance), then unexamined dogma may render a NEW belief, which makes some other human's life (the gay neighbor) difficult. Then I get pissed.


Me too. I could say a lot more about that but perhaps that's enough for now.