Posted: Aug 08, 2017 8:40 pm
by GrahamH
SpeedOfSound wrote:
romansh wrote:
But is the surface itself red in the same way I perceive it?

There are no separable things in the above sentence. There is no way for the bus to be red without you perceiving it.

Amen brother.

The red you perceive is your perception that refers to the spectral emission from the bus. It correlates. It refers. It's something your brain has evaluated and attributed as experience'. The self is seeing red bus. You can't separate the red from the self in relation to the bus. you can't paint a bus with perceived red (despite what jamest will tell you about orchestrated qualia).

It's all physical making pictures (illusions if you like) of technicolor subjectivity to make sense of it all.