Posted: Aug 21, 2017 3:03 pm
by GrahamH
scott1328 wrote:To me it is about prediction, oppurtunities, evaluation of oppurtunities, and consequences. To me, free will cannot exist unless cuase and effect are in full operation. Otherwise prediction of likely outcomes and consequences are impossible.


The only prediction relevant to free will is surely one's own anticipation of one's own actions, which we could imagine being the case irrespective of any other cause and effect. I will X --> I do X. I conclude my will caused X. That could apply without reference to any general cause and effect in full operation, could it not?

If events happen spontaneously I could still conclude that my willed events are caused by me.