Posted: Nov 24, 2017 1:35 pm
by John Platko
felltoearth wrote:At 8:40
"If you believe in Free Will then this will explain Free Will, if you don't believe in Free Will this will explain the illusion of Free Will."

This video is useless in this conversation John. Do you like wasting our time? Maybe you can't choose to do otherwise.


I think that quote was meant to say more about humans arguing about free will then the quality of what Seth said which helps explain what Deutsch was getting at. But I better spell it out. To have free will we need the ability to create new knowledge. And as Deutsch said:

... What one means by saying that the creation of knowledge is unpredictable is that it cannot be known BEFORE it is created. Creating the relevant knowledge can be done only by running a simulation of the person in question. That simulation, in turn, will by definition be creative, and unpredictable, in the same sense: the prediction of its choice cannot be made in advance of the creation of the relevant knowledge.


So rather than waste time arguing nonsense, I think we would make more process if we dived a bit deeper into what is involved in the creation of new Knowledge. Anyone have any examples they would like to offer to the discussion?