Posted: Feb 09, 2018 1:29 am
by SafeAsMilk
jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:Emotions, values, etc., these are the subjective values of 'folk-psychology'

No they aren't. You objectively feel emotions, you objectively hold values. Just because your preference for black raspberry ice cream is subjective, does not mean you don't objectively prefer black raspberry ice cream. How many times are you going to make this incredibly basic, incredibly idiotic mistake?

I had you down as an intelligent guy.

I can always count on you to thump your chest right before tripping on your own shoelaces.

I intimately KNOW [qualitatively] the values of my emotions and sensations. Of course, a physicalist cannot. If you don't understand the difference between "I love you" and "Chemical X wants me to fuck you" [or suchlike] then perhaps you're a bot.

I do know the difference, that doesn't change the fact that they're both the result of physical processes. If you're claiming emotions come from some magical place beyond the physical realm, then you apparently don't know that much. There's no debate about this. No emotion has ever been observed to exist outside of a brain to express it.

In either case, up your fucking game. At the moment it's in the gutter.

This is funny coming from the guy who's just assuming his conclusion.

I'm speaking to you now because I like you, but if you continue acting the political goat I'll get bored. Actually, I'm bored already, so consider this post as a charitable gift.

It's kinda hard to believe you're bored in your own thread where you haven't even begun to flesh out or defend your position at all. I mean, do you honestly think you're fooling anyone?