Posted: Feb 26, 2018 2:25 pm
by John Platko
GrahamH wrote:
John Platko wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
John Platko wrote:

What exactly does the word "complete" mean to you?

Ask yourself, you used it first. Be sure to keep its context.


I'm thinking you need to be a David Koresh or a Jim Jones to be a "complete asshole". The description hardly
applies to JC.


How do you know that?


How do I know what the word "complete" means to me in this context?
I asked myself - that's how. :lol:



More rash assumptions about what was in the mind of someone two millennia ago from scant stories recalled by his adoring followers?


:nono: Just a bit of introspection of my own mind while sipping coffee this morning.



This guy doesn't think Koresh was "a complete asshole":

Clive Doyle, a 72-year-old Australian-Texan, still lives in Waco and still has Bible study every Saturday with another survivor, Sheila Martin. Doyle has become the Davidians' unofficial historian and spokesman. He says they are still waiting on the resurrection of Koresh.
"We survivors of 1993 are looking for David and all those that died either in the shootout or in the fire," Doyle says. "We believe that God will resurrect this special group."

https://www.npr.org/2013/04/20/17806347 ... ll-believe


And your point is?

When I think of the contemptible ideas I was taught by the CC I can't pinpoint any of them to JC. Mostly recast ideas of Aristotle by people who rapped them in their own biases are responsbile for those is what I find.

And more on the OPs point. I'm thinking that we have limited control in how well we can actually "pinpoint" Christ. We might influence part of that quest but what we Cs call Grace plays a major role too. Non Cs might have a model that says something like: "free will can't possibly control our fate - our particles are just doing what they must."