Posted: Apr 17, 2018 12:31 am
jamest wrote:The_Metatron wrote:jamest wrote:[Reveal] Spoiler:Social evolution has of course been driven primarily by peope who deeply care for other people. Not obviously because they're trying to make a name for themselves, nor make their wallet fatter. In this day and age it seems very difficult to find any genuine/sincere people who actually care about anything other than themselves or their own family & friends. No doubt such people still exist (to an extent), but they definitely do so under the radar these days, as Western Society itself promotes individualism, fame and wealth. The Selfie Age, as it will no doubt be called.
Regardless, despite my aversion to religion one thing is certain: the people who have eventually changed things (socially) in the name of their God have done so because of their God. Social evolution driven by God. It's happening right now, every time a ruck-sack blows-up on a train, etc..
All social revolution, including the idea that no humans are slaves, was driven by the bible or suchlike (God). Alternatively, we could consider a character who fascinates me deeply, Henry VIII, who ultimately changed the course of Western History, by deciding that He had more power than the Pope, but only in God's eye.
Even the fuckin' Greeks and Romans, Egyptians, etc., had their Gods to dictate their own social movements. Social movements driven by Gods.
Where the fuck can you find social evolution not driven by God? Only in extreme fundamental atheists. Those who don't give two fucks for God. Those who have no reason to do anything other than for their own self and family/friends.
... Enter the The God of Essex. The God of the individual. An idiotic attitude, for sure, but still a social movement driven by a God.
I rest my case.
I bet you don’t.
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Philosophy is a bit like business. You set your stall up and yet somebody will still want to shaft you unless you do xyz even when you've already done xyz. I sincerely hope that your business doesn't encounter the shit I've endured here.
If he runs it as poorly as you have, then he probably will. Especially if he claims to have done xyz when he actually hasn't.
Sincerely, again. Though there's a history of theists being shafted in this gaff,
There's also a history of atheists "being shafted in this gaff". If you mean, "theists shafted just for being theists", then show, don't tell.
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