Posted: Jul 20, 2018 12:45 am
This thread is bizarre. Until about the 19th/20th centuries, the definition of sound was something MERELY associated with the experience/sensation of sound via OBSERVERS thereof. Thereafter, OBSERVERS thereof who had studied THE ORDER inherent within their sensations/experiences decided that sound had a second meaning applicable to the world that they were experiencing/observing in the first instance.
Please note and underline the following fact:
This 'modern' definition of sound (along the lines of 'things' vibrating and affecting one another) DOES NOT TRANSCEND experience/sensation. Note too that this applies equally to all science based upon the sensation/experience of 'seeing/observation', more so really when you realise that most science has its basis in what can be 'seen'.
The actual IMPORTANCE of PHILOSOPHICAL threads like these has its basis in FACTS like the ones provided here in my post. Namely, that science has its own basis within EXPERIENCE/SENSATION and does NOT transcend experience/sensation.
Therefore, when someone asks a question such as the OP, all of you muppets who start mocking and preaching science look like fuckin' medieval retards to anyone with a metaphysical clue. I mean, the FACT IS that 'we' know NO facts unassociated from sensation/experience/observation. Therefore, ONLY a medieval retard would insist that trees make sounds when there's no observer within the equation. Even science itself, established upon 'empirical proof' ('observation') cannot dispute this fact,
If you want to carry on acting like a fucking medieval retard, then go ahead, but at least know that there are many people like me who recognise you for what you are. Conversely, stop acting like a fucking medieval retard and REALISE that science does NOT transcend experience.
... IF you ever manage that, you'll have transcended the mode of being a medieval retard. Congratulations.
If you don't manage that, then stfu as you should NOT be pretending to be smart enough to post here in the philosophy/reasoning forum.
Did you not like that? Tough fucking shit. I mean, I'm not stringing you up here. Grow a pair and wake the fuck up before you die. Otherwise, it's sheep to the slaughter, as per usual.
I'm fed-up of feeling like Tim Robbins in Shawshank. I'm not doing that any more.
Please note and underline the following fact:
This 'modern' definition of sound (along the lines of 'things' vibrating and affecting one another) DOES NOT TRANSCEND experience/sensation. Note too that this applies equally to all science based upon the sensation/experience of 'seeing/observation', more so really when you realise that most science has its basis in what can be 'seen'.
The actual IMPORTANCE of PHILOSOPHICAL threads like these has its basis in FACTS like the ones provided here in my post. Namely, that science has its own basis within EXPERIENCE/SENSATION and does NOT transcend experience/sensation.
Therefore, when someone asks a question such as the OP, all of you muppets who start mocking and preaching science look like fuckin' medieval retards to anyone with a metaphysical clue. I mean, the FACT IS that 'we' know NO facts unassociated from sensation/experience/observation. Therefore, ONLY a medieval retard would insist that trees make sounds when there's no observer within the equation. Even science itself, established upon 'empirical proof' ('observation') cannot dispute this fact,
If you want to carry on acting like a fucking medieval retard, then go ahead, but at least know that there are many people like me who recognise you for what you are. Conversely, stop acting like a fucking medieval retard and REALISE that science does NOT transcend experience.
... IF you ever manage that, you'll have transcended the mode of being a medieval retard. Congratulations.
If you don't manage that, then stfu as you should NOT be pretending to be smart enough to post here in the philosophy/reasoning forum.
Did you not like that? Tough fucking shit. I mean, I'm not stringing you up here. Grow a pair and wake the fuck up before you die. Otherwise, it's sheep to the slaughter, as per usual.
I'm fed-up of feeling like Tim Robbins in Shawshank. I'm not doing that any more.