Posted: Sep 08, 2018 7:50 pm
by BWE
GrahamH wrote:
BWE wrote: Things are products of mind. Naming is a way to begin to make models.


I think you are coming at that from far to high a level. Any attempt to identify what consciousness is should not start with 'mind' or 'products of mind'.

Brains make models (Bayesian predictors if you like) and models can support names.

I disagree. Without mind, or the processes we call mind anyway, is exactly the starting point required unless you are positing a mind of god.