Posted: Sep 09, 2018 11:13 am
by surreptitious57
SpeedOfSound wrote:
So first what is the thing to which we want to point and ask of science that it explain for us

We should definitely try to resist the temptation to separate mind and brain. While they can mean different things they are very obviously inter connected. This suggests nonduality rather than duality because they cannot ever be entirely separated from each other other before point of death. This should be taken as the default position pertaining to consciousness and all the ways it manifests itself. Brain and mind may be studied in isolation to each other as long as inter connection is accepted

Another thing would be to not treat consciousness as non physical because such language is entirely meaningless. Since any thing that exists by definition has to be physical regardless of actual composition. So it doesnt have to be three dimensional and possess mass and dimension to qualify as such. It might be better to describe it as a process rather than a thing but it is still physical whatever the preferred adjective of choice may be [ that said there should be some agreement upon what said adjective is so as to avoid superfluous semantic quibbling forever down the rabbit hole without actually addressing the really interesting question of what consciousness is ]

Establish these two provisional axioms as the foundation for consciousness and then proceed from there
That is the easy part because what comes after is much harder to understand and reach consensus upon