Posted: Sep 17, 2018 2:06 pm
by GrahamH
SpeedOfSound wrote:
In the above mention of Graziano I was using it differently though. I was asking if Graziano in: "interprets that as subjective experience. The brain attributes consciousness to itself." was mounting the idea that we 'imagine' we have experience or construct it in some higher order way.


I'd say "imagining" is subjective experience, not vice versa.
Constructed yes, but not "high level". It's "low level". If it makes sense to try to rank these things, maybe, at the level of Damasio's enhanced body map -> self map which is very deep down. I think there's a lot in common between Graziano and Damasio, although they may look very different on the surface.

SpeedOfSound wrote:If I am 'unconscious-of' a thing then that thing could be something a thousand miles away or perhaps in another galaxy.



I think that the "you" that can experience the thing is ontologically at precisely the same level as the experience. The subject and the "experienced object" arise together in our comprehension / construction / attribution.


BTW Graziano's book is on Audible.