Posted: Oct 20, 2018 8:36 am
by Cito di Pense
zoon wrote:I was dismissing machine learning too glibly, but, as you say, training an AI system (at any rate, current AI systems) is not the same as human punishment and reward.


Is it different because a human being is not a machine? Even you don't believe that. Is it different because one is more complex than the other? Even you don't believe that. So the 'difference' you're after is not about the outcome but about the goal. This bullshit you keep publishing is still full of teleology.

zoon wrote:Robot butlers are useful, but robot butlers with employment rights would be a step too far?


That's presumably because you believe the concept of 'rights' has a goal, and it looks to me very much as if that's why you treat it as different. I think your analysis is still being spooked by teleology, zoon, right from the word 'go'. Maybe that's because you still believe, in your heart of hearts, that humans have a special sauce. If that's only because you identify as human, you're not doing philosophy, but just practicing identity politics.